Live blogging of the Celevand debate-part 1

8:03 PM--Hillary "finds (it) regrettable" that the Obama campaign dared last week to send out fliers to Ohio Democrats questioning her approach to providing universal health care. Is she actually criticizing Obama for playing dirty? Has she been sleep-walking during her campaign over the last year?

8:17 PM--They're talking about health care. Still. We've got it. You both want all Americans insured, but disagree on how to do it...and somehow you guys have been able to find 'experts' that make identical claims about both plans. Let's move on. At least Obama accepts this. I'm gonna flip if Hillary argues one more time that Obama intentionally wants to leave people out of his plan. Just stop.

8:21 PM--OK, NAFTA, good, something new. Hillary wants a "trade timeout" during which NAFTA can be made more "enforceable, which it isn't right now." She is still criticizing Obama for...criticizing her? Obama ties in his time working on the streets of Chicago and helping out blacks, whites and Hispanics who had been laid off directly as a result of NAFTA. I think he killed this one.

8:26 PM--Russert is pressing Hillary on her past statement defending Bill's greatest legacy (no, not Monica) as having directly benefited New York and the US. Hillary: "Neither of us have voted on this." Actually, Obama voted down CAFTA (NAFTA's equally ugly sister) in 2005. Obama just said Clinton is "right" on this issue. He didn't win this one, but once again proved capable of avoiding taking Clinton's bait and getting worked up. BTW-I like how neither is willing to mention how this whole NAFTA thing might even, believe it or not, negatively affect workers besides American ones.

8:36 PM--A softball for Obama. Can you pledge to screw over our reputation abroad less than Bush has? SO, it turns out Obama was against the war from the beginning. Say what? Also, he mentions having foresight in regard to not thinking that dictating-Musharraf was our best ally in the War on Terror.

8:41 PM--MSNBC.com isn't cooperating. Gimme a sec.

8:44 PM--In the meantime, how lame has this debate been so far?

8:46 PM--Still waiting...I guess it's half time.